# SCIM request: Groups attribute always empty in user creation or update

**URL:** <https://devforum.okta.com/t/scim-request-groups-attribute-always-empty-in-user-creation-or-update/29744>\
**Category:** SCIM\
**Created:** [July 30, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://devforum.okta.com/t/scim-request-groups-attribute-always-empty-in-user-creation-or-update/29744 "2024-07-30T11:30:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![nanthakumar.s](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nanthakumar.s](https://devforum.okta.com/u/nanthakumar.s)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://devforum.okta.com/t/scim-request-groups-attribute-always-empty-in-user-creation-or-update/29744/1 "2024-07-30T11:30:24Z")

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When I update or create a user in Okta, there is a POST or PUT request sent to my application with that user and its attributes. Within those attributes there is a groups attribute which does always has an empty list as value. There is no information about which groups that the user belongs to in Okta,